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		<title>Legacy ERP on Cloud platforms</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 14:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>djohnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many vendors are moving their applications to the cloud to capitalize on press opportunities. Recent announcements from EMC, Lawson, and Epicor repeat the same message &#8211; don&#8217;t upgrade your application, upgrade your infrastructure. At ERP Cloud News, we believe that you need to upgrade your application to take full advantage of all the benefits that [...]]]></description>
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<p>Many vendors are moving their applications to the cloud to capitalize on press opportunities. Recent announcements from EMC, Lawson, and Epicor repeat the same message &#8211; don&#8217;t upgrade your application, upgrade your infrastructure. At ERP Cloud News, we believe that you need to upgrade your application to take full advantage of all the benefits that cloud technologies can offer.</p>
<h2>EMC says private cloud</h2>
<p>At EMC World, EMC CEO Joe Tucci explained that businesses will not be willing to give up their existing investments in custom ERP applications. Further, enterprises will not be willing to invest in solutions which could lock them in to a particular vendor or cloud provider. For these reasons, he concludes that the way to the cloud is via a virtualized datacenter. More details are provided by Jason Hiner in his article <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/emc-enterprise-data-centers-wont-wont-all-flock-to-the-cloud/34313" target="_blank">EMC: Enterprise data centers won&#8217;t all flock to the cloud</a> in ZDnet.</p>
<h4>EMC&#8217;s Market</h4>
<p>EMC is targeting large enterprise customers with legacy systems &#8211; the same customers that purchase a lot of EMC products today, but might be tempted to move to something different. Unfortunately, the indirect message is <em>keep running your same old applications that are built for the 1990&#8242;s in a new data center</em>.</p>
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<h4>ERP Cloud News opinion: Same ERP Application, New Infrastructure</h4>
<p>The announcements from EMC, Lawson, and Epicor fail to mention that ERP applications and datacenter improvements need to occur together. Changing the infrastructure without updating the application will fail to achieve the full <a href="#ERP_benefits">benefits of cloud ERP</a> listed below.
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<h2>Lawson says public and private cloud</h2>
<p>According to David Stodder in <a href="http://intelligent-enterprise.informationweek.com/channels/enterprise_applications/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224701329&amp;pgno=1" target="_blank">Intelligent Enterprise</a>, Lawson Software uses Amazon Web Services to run its suite of enterprise applications so customers can benefit from the cloud. This implementation is similar to the EMC vision, where your existing application is run on a cloud services provider which is managed through virtual private servers.</p>
<h4>Lawson&#8217;s Market</h4>
<p>Lawson is targeting businesses with $50M-$250M in revenue that do not have IT expertise with this offering. For customers in the $250M-$750M range, Lawson offers an internal cloud based on VMware virtualization technologies. These moves preempt customers who may think of moving to an application that was written for the cloud. The message is <em>keep running your same old applications that are built for the 1990&#8242;s in a new data center</em>.</p>
<h2>Epicor says public and private cloud</h2>
<p>According to Chris Kanaracus in <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/196028/epicor_aims_at_manufacturers_with_new_saas_app.html" target="_blank">PC World</a>, Epicor launched a new multi-tenant SaaS application based on it&#8217;s existing Epicor 9 software. The Epicor SaaS version only contains a subset of features available via the on-premise offering in order to simplify implementation. The <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/EpicorR-Announces-OnDemand-iw-16665616.html?x=0&#038;.v=1&#038;.pf=personal-finance&#038;mod=pf-personal-finance" target="_blank">Epicor press release</a>, stops short of saying that the application has been re-written to eliminate client software and the maintenance hassles associated with it.</p>
<h4>Epicor&#8217;s Market</h4>
<p>Epicor is targeting manufacturers willing to spend $400-$1,000/month with this SaaS offering. In the future, according to Chad Meyer, Epicor&#8217;s Director of Product Marketing, Epicor plans to court larger customers with SaaS offerings as well as different verticals. Epicor 9 is a new release, but the indirect message is <em>keep running your same old applications that are built for the 1990&#8242;s in a new data center</em>.</p>
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<h2>Benefits when applications are written for the cloud</h2>
<p><div id="attachment_1269" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><img src="http://erpcloudnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/moving_apps_to_cloud-300x116.png" alt="Moving ERP to the Cloud" title="Moving ERP to the Cloud" width="300" height="116" class="size-medium wp-image-1269" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Moving ERP to the Cloud</p></div><br />
We agree that placing a legacy application on the cloud delivers some benefits in terms of scaling and hardware costs. These are the same benefits provided by a virtualized datacenter and have little to do with the ERP application. </p>
<p>Placing a <em>web and cloud engineered application</em> on the cloud provides benefits which  are not available from moving a legacy ERP application to the cloud. Some of these benefits are described in the table below.</p>
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<td class="rowheader">Access from anywhere</td>
<td>Web applications provide the freedom to access your applications from anywhere without installing VPN software. Placing a web front end on your existing application provides only limited access from anywhere.</td>
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<td class="rowheader">Consolidated operations</td>
<td>Modern cloud applications allow companies with distributed offices to consolidate operations and save money by eliminating multiple systems and management processes. A legacy application moved to the cloud may help reduce some of the costs, but complete centralization is not likely without rewriting some code.</td>
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<td class="rowheader">Lower maintenance costs</td>
<td>Web applications save companies money by eliminating client software installation and maintenance costs. Placing a legacy application on the cloud does not accomplish this.</td>
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<td class="rowheader">Mobile applications</td>
<td>Applications engineers for the cloud naturally accomodate mobile devices. The cloud is everywhere, just like mobile devices.</td>
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<td class="rowheader">Reduced network traffic</td>
<td>Placing a legacy application on the cloud may generate a lot of network traffic. Legacy applications were built for a LAN, while cloud applications were built for the web. As you involve more people and access from different locations, cloud application performance will exceed that of a legacy application placed on the cloud.</td>
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<td class="rowheader">Involve everybody in ERP</td>
<td>Applications written for the cloud allow businesses to involve everybody &#8211; employees, partners, temporary workers, customers, vendors, and more in their ERP processes. A legacy application installed on the cloud does not provide this benefit due to architectural contraints which limit access, usability, installation, and ease of management.</td>
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<h6 class="zemanta-related-title" style="font-size: 1em;">Related articles</h6>
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<li class="zemanta-article-ul-li"><a href="http://erpcloudnews.com/2010/02/its-time-to-re-write-erp/">It&#8217;s time to re-write ERP</a> (ERPcloudNews.com)</li>
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		<title>Scaling with cloud computing and SaaS</title>
		<link>http://erpcloudnews.com/2009/10/scaling-with-cloud-computing-and-saas/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>djohnson</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Cloud]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both cloud computing and SaaS (software as a service) deliver the ability for companies to scale resources on-demand. SaaS scales applications. In the SaaS world, companies can scale applications. Because SaaS implies outsourcing, this means that the SaaS provider can easily scale application(s) that they manage for customers. Savings are obtained by aggregating computing patterns [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both cloud computing and SaaS (software as a service) deliver the ability for companies to scale resources on-demand. </p>
<p><b>SaaS scales applications.</b> In the SaaS world, companies can scale applications. Because SaaS implies outsourcing, this means that the SaaS provider can easily scale application(s) that they manage for customers. Savings are obtained by aggregating computing patterns across multiple customers. </p>
<p><b>Clouds scale computing resources.</b> In the cloud computing world, companies can scale computing resources. Unlike SaaS, clouds can be managed internally (private clouds), externally (outsourced clouds), or using a combination of internal and external clouds. Savings are obtained in two ways &#8211; first by aggregating computing patterns across applications and second by aggregating computing patterns across customers (external clouds).</p>
<h4>Relating this to Accounting, ERP, and CRM</h4>
<p>When looking at accounting, ERP, and CRM applications, we agree with Larry Augustin, CEO of SugarCRM, who in a recent <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail??blogid=150&#038;entry_id=49505">blog post in SFGate</a> says &#8220;the need for data ownership, control, customization, and integration with core systems will drive the need for private clouds.&#8221; He goes on to predict that &#8220;Cloud computing is obsoleting SaaS as defined by Salesforce, NetSuite, and single-vendor solutions.&#8221;</p>
<h4>Recommendation</h4>
<p>For applications such as ERP which may require customization and compliance with regulations, select an application that is built to be run on internal and external clouds. SaaS is a great option, but make sure that you do not get locked into a single vendor which will limit your options in the long run.</p>
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		<title>Moving Accounting and ERP Between Clouds</title>
		<link>http://erpcloudnews.com/2009/10/moving-applications-between-clouds/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>djohnson</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Accounting & ERP Software]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Goal: Saving money is a key component of cloud computing. Cloud computing can be implemented internally or externally. As mentioned in several articles, cloud computing can benefit businesses through rapid scaling, paying for only the services that you use, reducing hardware purchases, and dynamically allocating computing loads. Running applications on a cloud computing service [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>The Goal:</em></strong></p>
<p>Saving money is a key component of cloud computing.</p>
<p>Cloud computing can be implemented internally or externally. As mentioned in several articles, cloud computing can benefit businesses through rapid scaling, paying for only the services that you use, reducing hardware purchases, and dynamically allocating computing loads.</p>
<p>Running applications on a cloud computing service can save you money – but your needs change over time.  As mentioned by Dennis Quan (Director of Business Development, IBM Software Group) in ITBusinessEdge, it’s critical that you <a href="http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/community/features/interviews/blog/in-the-clouds-but-still-in-control/?cs=35949">manage and control your applications</a> and deployment so you can balance loads and move them between internal and external clouds.</p>
<p><strong><em>The Lessons:</em></strong></p>
<p>Enterprises need to be careful not to purchase applications from a vendor which offers only an external cloud locks. This locks you into a single architecture and prevents you from reaping the benefits of managing your applications across both internal and external networks.  In this scenario, the external-cloud-only vendor saves money, but they are not likely to pass all the savings on to you. Also, if you try to “scale down” your application, you may not be allowed to do it until your 1 year contract is over.</p>
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